I've not read any of Cory's books yet, though I'm a fan of his world famous blog Boing Boing which he shares with some other Bay Area counter culture techie friends.
He's also just started Podcasting his stories!
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We had a great Cory Doctorow thread up before the EZ Hack, and I'm hoping Criminal English will be so cool as to force himself to recreate at least some of what he posted before.
I've not read any of Cory's books yet, though I'm a fan of his world famous blog Boing Boing which he shares with some other Bay Area counter culture techie friends. He's also just started Podcasting his stories! |
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Yep, I had a review of his 2nd novel, Eastern Standard Tribe up, and I guess we'd spoken about his policy of offering his works as freeonline downloads and how much sense that made!
I haven't been able to find my review anywhere else - looks as if it's lost for good, but I'll see if I can re-cap when I get time to glance through the novel again.
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ljim2000 |
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Normally I frown on double posting on this board, but I'm going to break my own rule here. I gave this it's own topic in the SF Chat forum, since it pertains to several authors, but since Mr. Doctorow is the main instigator, here it is again:
Cory Doctorow was cool enough to secure the permission from his fellow panelists from the 2007 Science Fiction Panel at the LA Times Festival of Books, including Kage Baker, John Scalzi and Harry Turtledove, to allow us to download the panel discussion for free! |
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Interesting - it's obviously a more widespread phenomenon than I was aware of. And Star Trek leads the way, of course... those "Brave New Worlds" anthologies blur the line agreeably!
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ljim2000 |
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I remember a 6th grade class-mate writing a sequel for Star Wars when there was no such thing in the theaters yet. It's been going on for a long time, though the net gives the writers a way to "publish", and authors like Cory are cool with that if they don't try to sell it.
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Custer1 |
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It would be a bit awkward if an author was working on the next book in his series, and discovered a version online that used the same ideas - or found a version online that was manifestly superior to what he was writing, come to that!
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ljim2000 |
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Yes, it does seem inevitable that an author will eventually get sued for stealing ideas from someone writing with his/her characters in his/her universe!
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Custer1 |
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That does seem a possibility, given the legendary litigiousness of the Great American Public. But if you go and play in an author's universe, you're really playing by his rules, and creating material to which he has the copyright.
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ljim2000 |
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Cory conduct an audio interview at the World Science Fiction Convention in Yokohama, Japan with Nielsen Hayden, the editor who runs the largest science fiction line in the world for Tor Books.
Wow. Meanwhile, Cory Calls Science Fiction Writers of America to the Carpet over what he perceives (and I'm in complete agreement with him) as extremely overzealous enforcement of the Digital Medium Copyright Act. |
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Custer1 |
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Wow, the SFWA did act like a bunch of idiots, didn't they? Give some people a little bit of power and it goes to their head, sadly...
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ljim2000 |
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People in all areas of media are just so horrified of people sharing art and not paying for it every time they look at it, that it's creating this wave of bureaucratic legal insanity. The SFWA are only emulating the RIAA and the MPAA in what seems normal to lawyers - suing people who could otherwise be talked to. Of course this is actually screwing up the work and distribution of some artists who wish to do things differently, like Cory, and it's also pis$ing off a whole lot of fans (read: customers) so that they want even less to do with the "industries" than before.
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pecooper |
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I attended an author's reading a while back and was amazed to hear the guy complain that it was being held at a public library. He felt that he was robbed of a sale every time they loaned out a copy of his book. I did not buy a copy of his work, which I normally do out of politeness.
People are just turning their minds off. Over on the Eat Our Brains blog, Steven Gould is lamenting the fact that he has a lifetime membership in the SFWA so he can't resign in protest. |
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ljim2000 |
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I can't imagine being an artist who wouldn't be thrilled to have their stuff read for free, or listened to for free, or looked at for free, by like minded people. Definitely if we let the lawyers ruin cyberspace, the media conglomerates will take aim at libraries later.
I've paid for maybe one book in a new bookstore by Kathleen Ann Goonan - the rest I checked out at libraries or bought used paperbacks and then gave away to people in my family to read. I also got so into her that I personally updated her Wikipedia page for accuracy and critical acclaim, and she thanked me personally. We've e-mailed back and forth considerably and I'm sure she's glad the libraries made her books available to me. I'm also sure it helps her sales in the long run. |
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ljim2000 |
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Cory takes his "copyfighting" crusade to Locus!!
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Custer1 |
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He's certainly right that almost all of us just wouldn't want to sit at a computer screen and read a whole novel... though of course the latest developments in "electronic paper" will make it possible to read an e-book just as easily as you'd read a paperback, given time.
Still, it does look as if people who give away their writing electronically do come out ahead... |
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ljim2000 |
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We are excited to announce that the group book read at the Science Fiction Message Board for December, 2007 will be the 2004 nominee for the Nebula award Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom, the first publsihed novel by Cory Doctorow!
Taylor Antrim wrote in The New York Times of this 22nd Century romp through Walt Disney World, "the impressively imagined world of the novel is tricked out in lively prose", while Tim Pratt of Strange Horizons went so far as to enthuse, "It would not be an exaggeration to say that Doctorow's work is one of the main reasons I still read science fiction". Nisi Shawl said in the Seattle Times of this debut novel, "Even when science fiction is based on solid predictions, it can demonstrate the pinwheeling pyrotechnics of a first-class fireworks display." Cory Doctorow is arguably know better as one of the key contributors to the hugely popular Boing Boing blog/e-zine than he is as a science fiction author (though a clue is that a majority of his Boing Boing posts are about SF!) He is also an unabashed "Copyfighter", who firmly believes that "intellectual property" laws and their all too frequent strong-arm enforcement are doing much more damage to the arts than good. He completely puts his money where his keystroke is on this belief by allowing internet users many ways to download his books for free as easily as purchase signed copies from his own webpage. He has written two more novels since Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom, but we opted to begin with his first as many of our board members had not yet read any of his novels, and we like to begin at the beginning! For those who want to participate in our group read, but who don't have the funds, and hesitate to read e-books, Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom is also readily available in many public libraries! As always, our bi-monthly group book discussions are open to everyone and may be be joined at any time during the month put aside for the book. While the basic idea is that we will read and post along together as new readers to the book, we also welcome insights from those who have read the book previously (just don't divulge spoilers before the group gets there, and warn other readers whenever you do!) All you need do for this particular group read is locate our Cory Doctorow author thread and join the discussion! |
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ljim2000 |
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Great news! The details are still being ironed out, but I've been in touch with Cory, and he is quite willing to participate in the Coda of our discussion. It will probably entail him answering a few questions we pull out of our group read, and we may have him do that part in early January (since December tends to end with a couple holidays taking up most people's time.)
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Custer1 |
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Ah yes, "Wintersday" in Guild Wars is in late December, clever of him to remember that...but with his knowledge of the interweb in all its many forms, I shouldn't be surprised!
Seriously, that's excellent news. I'm looking forward to reading the novel, as soon as Amazon.co.uk can get it to me, which should be relatively early in the month.
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ljim2000 |
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My copy is apparently waiting for me at the Portland library right now!
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